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    Preventative: treating muriatic acid burns?

    I have a pool. I use muriatic acid to balance the pH level.

    I am very careful with it, but I'm certain that at some point I will spill some muriatic acid on myself.

    Anybody know the best way to deal with this? (Yes, not spilling it is the best way, I'm aware of this. Just thinking ahead here.) I've read that flushing with water is the first thing to do, I'm just wondering if there's anything topical that should be applied to stop the burn.

    Thanks for nothing, hopefully.

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    Flushing with water is the best you can do. Your other option is to flush with a mild caustic, such as vinegar, but I would stick with the water. And of course have topical burn ointments on hand to apply once the area is thoroughly flushed.

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    The answer is flush with water and attempt to neutralize the acid on the skin with baking soda. I'm pretty sure that can be done in either order.

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    Get some chemical proof rubber gloves.
    I used to work at a warehouse that had hazmat chemicals everywhere. Worst one was 70% hydrogen peroxide.
    We had to do an orientation to know how to work around it. We used a full face shield, rubber gloves, and a chemical proof apron when working on it. It would burn your clothes off and did much worse to skin if there was contact. Permanent blindness was a given if you $#@!ed up and got it in the face.
    So the first delivery happens, and the driver doesn't have a clue. He burned the bejesus out of his hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PINCHE PENDEJO View Post
    I splashed my arm the other day. I just washed it off in the pool. No burning.
    This is the correct answer. Back about 20+ years ago, I ran a pool route & we routinely had splashes of the stuff. A quick rinse off in the pool & you're good to go... just don't linger on it. Calmly replace the cap to the bottle & then get your appendage (or body part) in the pool. If you have a cell phone or wallet, might wanna remove that & then just jump on in.

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    thanks for the responses, guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCAAFBALLROX View Post
    This is the correct answer. Back about 20+ years ago, I ran a pool route & we routinely had splashes of the stuff. A quick rinse off in the pool & you're good to go... just don't linger on it. Calmly replace the cap to the bottle & then get your appendage (or body part) in the pool. If you have a cell phone or wallet, might wanna remove that & then just jump on in.
    Yep, I get a few splashes on my leg every time I throw some in the pool (while wearing shorts and barefooted because I am a dumbass badass). Like the others said, a quick rinse and it'll be fine. Have actually had more pain from having some powdered chlorine (shock) work its way under my watchband and not realize it until it starts burning - much worse than the acid.

    Ahhh, a pool is a hole in the ground that you throw hundreds of dollars of chemicals in.....

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    My mom had a pickup battery blow up as she was wiggling the cables, spraying sulfuric acid right in her eyes . The only thing that saved them was that we instantly started flushing her eyes with water and continued to do so the whole 45 min drive to the hospital. She was blind for a few weeks while we waited to see if her corneas would grow back. They did. Then she got cancer. Worst year ever.

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    first off, proper ppe is crucial when handling any acids, rubber or PVC gloves, protective eye goggles, and chemical-resistant clothing and shoes are used to minimize risks when handling hydrochloric acid. Please protect your eyes and use the proper gloves at a min.

    Skin Burns
    # Flush the contaminated areas with water. High concentrations of vapor or liquid can cause the skin to redden and blister. In extreme cases, it can trigger frostbite, kill tissue or deeply ulcerated burns, the North Carolina Department of Health warns. Flush affected skin with water for 15 minutes but don't apply soap or rub it. Remove any clothing or jewelry that may have come into contact with the chemical and seek medical advice.

    Eye Burns
    # Exposure to eyes can irritate and burn or cause swelling, tearing, blurred vision, sensitivity to light and blindness. Like skin, eyes should also be flushed with water for 15 minutes. Lift the upper and lower lids while doing so. If the victim wears contact lenses, make sure they are removed. Seek medical advice if necessary.

    Inhalation
    # Move the victim to fresh air and monitor respiration. Breathing in toxic amounts of this chemical will cause congestion, coughing and a burning sensation in the throat. Move the victim away from the accident scene into fresh air. Check for breathing irregularities and conduct CPR if necessary.

    Types of Burns
    # Gauge the burn's severity, if you're capable of doing so before seeking direct medical intervention. It's a good idea to check with a physician if any symptoms occur (and in all cases involving someone who's swallowed hydrochloric acid). But minor exposure (short term, in small concentrations) to corrosive chemicals may only damage the top one or two layers of skin, causing first- or second-degree burns, many of which will heal on their own, according to the National Institutes of Health. In these cases, loosely covering the wound with sterile gauze after it's been thoroughly flushed clean with water will help to protect it until the tissue heals. Third-degree burns (which penetrate all skin layers and the tissue underneath) can cause massive, permanent damage, tissue death and scarring. These burns need to be treated with topical and potentially oral or injected antibiotics to prevent possible serious infection. In extreme cases, it may be necessary to surgically replace lost tissue with skin grafts. If in doubt about the severity of the injury, consult a physician.



    when i doubt, always look up the msds for any chemical, http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Vis...riaticacid.pdf

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    We used to pour that in a 2 liter bottle and throw some aluminum foil. Seal tight. Throw it in the stairwell. Boom. Fun times.

    A friend of mine got some on him once (pre-boom, we were usually drunk when trying this specific stunt). He just washed it off quickly and was fine.

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    Muriatic acid? my college roommate threw some of that on a Dallas cop on Commerce OU weekend '71 late Friday night.



    Me? I sleep with that $#@! in my stomach. Hell I even $#@! with that $#@! in my stomach.

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    IIRC muriatic acid is a weak solution of hydrochloric acid and car batteries use sulphuric acid. No matter which I would wear eye protection at all times. Splashing on skin isn't close to getting it in your eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraciePie View Post
    Flushing with water is the best you can do. Your other option is to flush with a mild caustic, such as vinegar, but I would stick with the water. And of course have topical burn ointments on hand to apply once the area is thoroughly flushed.
    Vinegar is not a caustic and it's sure as hell not basic. Vinegar is acetic acid. Adding that to an existing acid burn is only likely to make it worse.

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    I pour about a quart in my toilet every six months. It eats out the $#@! you can't reach with a brush and makes the toilet flush like new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sessamoid View Post
    Vinegar is not a caustic and it's sure as hell not basic. Vinegar is acetic acid. Adding that to an existing acid burn is only likely to make it worse.
    $#@! you're right, I got it backwards. A year ago a plant I was working at was neutralizing a highly caustic solution with sulfuric acid, and I ran a project to replace the sulfuric with acetic, which gave the process a very strong vinegar smell. I swapped in my mind where the vinegar smell came from.

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    Wash well with water, and you'll be fine. Protect your eyes though. HCl is a lot less dangerous than many other acids, especially concentrated ones, like sulfuric. Your stomach contains a dilute HCl solution, after all. Be aware that any metal around where you keep the bottle is likely to turn to rust.

    BTW, I think using baking soda isn't really recommended for acid burns, as it will react to make CO2 bubbles which may physically aggravate things. Instead, wash with lots of water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horn_Spanker View Post
    I pour about a quart in my toilet every six months. It eats out the $#@! you can't reach with a brush and makes the toilet flush like new.
    MF'ing this. Pour it in the water closet and flush. It cleans out the jets underneath the lip of the bowl. I'll sometimes throw a wet towel over the bowl so the fumes wont kill me.

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    wow, i get a drop or two on me all the time - just dip the foot or hand in the pool and keep going. Really, it is not as bad as it seems - never left a mark. Now breathing that $#@! is nasty - I would be more concerned about the vapors than the splash.

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    We would use 37% Hydrochloric acid (aka Muriatic acid) to regenerate ion purification resin beds. I got small splashes of it on me several times and just rinsed with water. Beer's right, inhaling the fumes is the real thing to avoid (of course other than not splashing it into your eyes).

    Sulfuric acid, battery acid, is nasty $#@!. It's dense and viscous (like maple syrup). It's hard as hell to rinse off your skin and can scar permanently. Any clothing it touches is ruined (if it doesn't make a hole right away, it will when you wash).

    70% Hydrogen peroxide is also scary stuff. If you put some on a rag, just set it aside and then watch it burst into flames (extremely strong oxidizer). Even at only 30% just touching a little bit of it will turn your flesh white (like you've painted yourself with Liquid Paper). It also burns and itches. Getting in your eyes is the biggest concern. Just a small amount in your eyes will blind you permanently. Prolonged exposure to the vapors from it will also turn your hair a strawberry, reddish color. This looks really funny on 50+ yr old union workers.

    70% Nitric acid will eat through steel, concrete, etc. Don't get this on you. It burns like a $#@!, but if you jump into a safety shower it rinses off quickly.

    49% Hydrofluoric acid. Just $#@!ing stay away from this $#@!.

    Acetic acid is awesome with some olive oil on a salad.

    One of the primary ingredients in Coke is Phosphoric acid. It's also nasty, dirty $#@!, but not a very strong acid (relatively speaking).
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    Hydrofluoric acid is indeed some scary $#@!. That $#@! will eat through glass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flaco View Post
    Hydrofluoric acid is indeed some scary $#@!. That $#@! will eat through glass.
    And it will penetrate through skin, connective tissue, muscle down to the bone in an amazingly short period of time. The burns look very benign initially, but they cause pain like no other. I've only seen one industrial HF burn, and the guy asked me to cut his hand off it hurt so much. It looked like almost nothing from the outside.

    Unless you're in an iron man suit, stay the $#@! away from HF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Dog View Post
    Get some chemical proof rubber gloves.
    I used to work at a warehouse that had hazmat chemicals everywhere. Worst one was 70% hydrogen peroxide.
    We had to do an orientation to know how to work around it. We used a full face shield, rubber gloves, and a chemical proof apron when working on it. It would burn your clothes off and did much worse to skin if there was contact. Permanent blindness was a given if you $#@!ed up and got it in the face.
    So the first delivery happens, and the driver doesn't have a clue. He burned the bejesus out of his hands.
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